i was in Phoenix arizona at the hospital outside cafe eating around 1 am i was listern to my walkman it was a vary cool nite the redio station was clear the redio station started to go out i look up to see if cloud was moveing in but no cloud as i look up i seen from my left eye a dirty red burned looking thing moveing vary slow about 30 feet over my head at frist was thinking it was a ballon but after it got over my head i can see the whole bottom of it was a red burned looking thing no lites no sound it was a shape i never seen before and there nothing here on eath that i can say its close too on the left and rigth side look like doors v cut shape doors this thing look vary old it was big but not thick if some one was flying in it then would have to be vary small to stand up in it most likey they had to be laying down or in a some kind of seat there was no port's or anything fore a motor so the funny thing about it was the frist thing i say to my self it was the same tone of the red sand dirt thats in Phoenix you can hide this thing on the ground in daytime there and it would fit in to the red dirt you would never see it thats it