one was v shaped then cloaked,the other one was round orange and hugeI myself did not see this event but eye witness accounts say that their snowmachines stopped running when they spotted this craft.Other people were saying that it was a orange fireball ( comet) that crashed in the area known as shabaqua corners.Just outside of Thunderbay this area is known for strange events such as 6 to 7 plane crashes in the last 10 years. Me myself i have witnessed a craft which was on the west side of the city of Thunderbay just above the airport.It seemed rather strange that i could see this object just above the airport.It did not seem to move it simply stayed in one area.It was v shaped,red in colour,and it seemed to cloak itself,yet i could still see the outline,it seem to blend in with the clouds but yet i could still make out the v shape.This went on for half an hour untill it seemed to cloak for the last time and i could not make it out anymore.That was in 2001.In 2002 i was on my way back from a gig,Im in a band,it was 3:00 am i was with my guitar player.We were heading north on what we call our expressway going home.Directly in front of us was a huge orange ball.The best way i can describe this incedent is,to put your thumb up in the air behind the wheel of my car would be the size of the moon.This craft would be the size of my fist.I stopped at the 7-11 to buy something to eat,and asked the worker to come outside and look at this thing to make sure i was,nt seeing things.And yes he as well as my guitar player ((name deleted)) saw this thing it was huge i couldn't beleive it.Nobody has ever reported this untill now.((NUFORC Note: Date and time may be approximate, althought the witness does not incate that fact. Please see other report, which indicates a possible date of March 10, 2003, from Thunderbay. We will attempt to confirm the date of the event. We do not know if the witness implies a daytime, or morning, sighting. PD))