I spent a nice warm sunny day with a friend on the front porch of our house. as a member of a chem trail website, i would often look up, on this day, when i looked up i saw a giant red glowing disc during the middle of the day,i was shocked, in disbelief, it was the size of a full moon, i checked, the clouds were between 5 to 10 thousand feet, the disc was above the clouds. the disc had a smaller circle in the middle of it's bottom side.. i looked up several times, it did not move or make noise. then i looked a 4th or 5th time and it was gone, i waited over 2 years mainly out of disbelief